Carol Schram: Why is Nikita Tryamkin returning to Russia? Canucks sign Jonathan Dahlen Thoughts on the reasoning behind Nikita Tryamkin's decision to return to Russia, coaching vacancies and candidates and the Canucks sign top prospect Jonathan Dahlen to an entry-level deal.

I have a tough time getting upset about Tryamkin, or any player using their collectively bargain rights, to do what they feel is best. Especially after things seemed so spotty with the team here.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's back for the kickoff of 2018. Takes a year away to see how things have developed in Vancouver, gets a shot at playing in the Olympics for Russia, has an easier time with a young family for a year, and he probably develops pretty well while he's over there too.

As for Dahlen, I really hope he starts and stays in the AHL for a good while next year. Him and Boeser for at least like 40-ish games. Free up a couple roster spots in the top 9 to try and pump and dump a few guys like Boucher or whoever the Hudlers/Versteegs of the world are in FA signings. Plus with a healthy lineup, at least to start the year, it'll be a little tight for top9 ice.

Thanks Carol!

I have a tough time getting upset about Tryamkin, or any player using their collectively bargain rights, to do what they feel is best. Especially after things seemed so spotty with the team here.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's back for the kickoff of 2018. Takes a year away to see how things have developed in Vancouver, gets a shot at playing in the Olympics for Russia, has an easier time with a young family for a year, and he probably develops pretty well while he's over there too.

As for Dahlen, I really hope he starts and stays in the AHL for a good while next year. Him and Boeser for at least like 40-ish games. Free up a couple roster spots in the top 9 to try and pump and dump a few guys like Boucher or whoever the Hudlers/Versteegs of the world are in FA signings. Plus with a healthy lineup, at least to start the year, it'll be a little tight for top9 ice.
- Lindenis#1

All good. I take it if you got BB down in AHL that's an automatic for Goldy? I say there is room for one on starting roster. Unless it's all about pumping and dumping Boucher and Rodin. Non-waivable players. No good established UFA is stepping into this mess of uncertainty if the young talented guys aren't here to pump offense.

Might not be as soft as some suggest. A couple articles I read on him said he drives hard to net and is willing to go to dirty areas, that is all I ask for from some skills guys, enough of this perimeter poop.
Sometimes you end to surround these types of players with the physical types. I am not opposed to skill guys as they are needed on every team. I don't even mind Nico but I have concerns about him, but he sure looked good at wjc.
- Reubenkincade

Yes Necas is feisty but on the light side for NHL. Loads of talent. Good for a 5th/6th. So it comes down to that old addage of can he gain upper body strength and not slow down?

I like Mittlestadt the most as find him better IQ and upper ceiling talent.
Nolan as the safe pick to be solid center with size. RJ type perhaps.
Nico is talented. He's either RNH limited or can be Macinnon like.
Then Glass. Hard worker. Trying to improve deficient areas like skating. Reminds me to be a Bo like player.
Vilardi- is good as a set up type and checker but not physical. Maybe a bigger Backstrom like player.

Maybe Tryamkin doesn't see it as a step backwards because he thinks the Canucks are worse than a KHL team.

Huh?!? Uhm the Oil scored first. Sharks came back and went up 3-1. Oil tied for OT. They scored in last minute. Sharks have to battle it out at home to stay alive which is disappointing. Especially how the path to SCF is shaping up.

Nuck fans can't buy a break so far. I don't think the lotto draw will be any different. The top 5 centers are all good with different concerns. Thus no super stars to be had. Just a good piece. Like the Flames have.
- Nuck4U

Once again you replied with something unrelated to what I was talking about. In my pool I had won the previous 3 games and had the sharks to win last night. When Edmonton scored with 3 minutes left it annoyed me greatly as I would otherwise have had a perfect night.

All good. I take it if you got BB down in AHL that's an automatic for Goldy? I say there is room for one on starting roster. Unless it's all about pumping and dumping Boucher and Rodin. Non-waivable players. No good established UFA is stepping into this mess of uncertainty if the young talented guys aren't here to pump offense.
- Nuck4U

I think Goldobin has to start on the big club more than the others do.

I don't think an established vet attaches his name to this club. But every year there are useful middle 6 forwards left without contracts. Toss a few extra bucks their way after the first couple weeks of July and then let them know up front "play well and we'll trade you a playoff team"

Doing the same with Boucher and if Rodin comes back him too. Just because the cupboards aren't bare right now doesn't mean they're full. Could really use a season of selling off assets for whatever comes back. Would even be down to using cap space to take say the final year, maybe 2, of some bad contract if the future coming back is good enough

Maybe Tryamkin doesn't see it as a step backwards because he thinks the Canucks are worse than a KHL team.
- golfingsince

He might not be all that wrong. Defence is paper thin even when healthy, forwards have a bit of depth but its nothing to write home about, and goaltending is really uncertain going into next year.

Yes Necas is feisty but on the light side for NHL. Loads of talent. Good for a 5th/6th. So it comes down to that old addage of can he gain upper body strength and not slow down?

I like Mittlestadt the most as find him better IQ and upper ceiling talent.
Nolan as the safe pick to be solid center with size. RJ type perhaps.
Nico is talented. He's either RNH limited or can be Macinnon like.
Then Glass. Hard worker. Trying to improve deficient areas like skating. Reminds me to be a Bo like player.
Vilardi- is good as a set up type and checker but not physical. Maybe a bigger Backstrom like player.
- Nuck4U

Necas or Nico? Different players.

Hischeir is a lot faster than RNH was at his draft. Looks more like Robert Lang than either of those two. Just my opinion. Robert Lang rocked though.

Holy cow Martin Necas is so effing quick.

I have a feeling you guys will take Mittelstadt and regret it. This face just screams "Jim Benning Bad Decision". Not trying to troll.

I hope Zhukenov stays in NA, I like him, think he could be an NHLer one day.

I have a tough time getting upset about Tryamkin, or any player using their collectively bargain rights, to do what they feel is best. Especially after things seemed so spotty with the team here.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's back for the kickoff of 2018. Takes a year away to see how things have developed in Vancouver, gets a shot at playing in the Olympics for Russia, has an easier time with a young family for a year, and he probably develops pretty well while he's over there too.

As for Dahlen, I really hope he starts and stays in the AHL for a good while next year. Him and Boeser for at least like 40-ish games. Free up a couple roster spots in the top 9 to try and pump and dump a few guys like Boucher or whoever the Hudlers/Versteegs of the world are in FA signings. Plus with a healthy lineup, at least to start the year, it'll be a little tight for top9 ice.
- Lindenis#1

I hope tryamkin works on his offense. I think he has untapped potential there.

Carol Schram: Why is Nikita Tryamkin returning to Russia? Canucks sign Jonathan Dahlen
Thoughts on the reasoning behind Nikita Tryamkin's decision to return to Russia, coaching vacancies and candidates and the Canucks sign top prospect Jonathan Dahlen to an entry-level deal.
- Carol Schram

When I first read he was heading back my first thought was he wanted a shot to play in the Olympics, and I wondered if there would be other Euros heading there.

This isn't ideal for Vancouver...he was promising for sure. But you guys are likely tanking next year anyway so it may actually be better for his long term development to play at home for a year or two and then come back.

When I first read he was heading back my first thought was he wanted a shot to play in the Olympics, and I wondered if there would be other Euros heading there.

This isn't ideal for Vancouver...he was promising for sure. But you guys are likely tanking next year anyway so it may actually be better for his long term development to play at home for a year or two and then come back.
- djamon

Agreed. And the next draft has some real talent. Maybe drafting the extremely talented Andrei Svechnikov would help lure Trymakin back eventually.

Just one more reason to sign a younger coach that is a good developer of talent.

Agreed. And the next draft has some real talent. Maybe drafting the extremely talented Andrei Svechnikov would help lure Trymakin back eventually.

Just one more reason to sign a younger coach that is a good developer of talent.
- fry

Best case scenario for us...

Once again you replied with something unrelated to what I was talking about. In my pool I had won the previous 3 games and had the sharks to win last night. When Edmonton scored with 3 minutes left it annoyed me greatly as I would otherwise have had a perfect night.
- NorthNuck

Okay thanks for the explanation. That's too bad. It ruined it for a lot. Wasn't clear on what you were talking about.

By the way I didn't slam you on it. Just questioned which was on me.

So why the once again retort. You didn't have to go there. As if that's a common occurrence. But you did. Is that a valid retort? If you believe that then paste a couple examples to clarify.

what a big loss losing tree!
This is an example of why WD and lidster needed to be fired long ago, so we dont lose assets because of them.

However with him missing his family I dont see he didnt fly them in to visit. He has the $ to do so. He also could have them stay for extended periods, even permanently.

what a big loss losing tree!
This is an example of why WD and lidster needed to be fired long ago, so we dont lose assets because of them.

However with him missing his family I dont see he didnt fly them in to visit. He has the $ to do so. He also could have them stay for extended periods, even permanently.
- SMBDragon

I think its more being fresh into his marriage and he and his wife are probably going for kids. Probably a lot easier to do that first year, maybe 2, where you have a lot of options for family support and also you actually speak the local language fluently.

And your bosses aren't showing you video of some dude and saying "do that" and then trying to send you to the AHL when you got a contract they gave you that says they can't do that.

what a big loss losing tree!
This is an example of why WD and lidster needed to be fired long ago, so we dont lose assets because of them.

However with him missing his family I dont see he didnt fly them in to visit. He has the $ to do so. He also could have them stay for extended periods, even permanently.
- SMBDragon

Russian Factor.

Willy and Lidster are gone and he still decided to leave.

Agreed. And the next draft has some real talent. Maybe drafting the extremely talented Andrei Svechnikov would help lure Trymakin back eventually.

Just one more reason to sign a younger coach that is a good developer of talent.
- fry

I have a tough time getting upset about Tryamkin, or any player using their collectively bargain rights, to do what they feel is best. Especially after things seemed so spotty with the team here.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's back for the kickoff of 2018. Takes a year away to see how things have developed in Vancouver, gets a shot at playing in the Olympics for Russia, has an easier time with a young family for a year, and he probably develops pretty well while he's over there too.

As for Dahlen, I really hope he starts and stays in the AHL for a good while next year. Him and Boeser for at least like 40-ish games. Free up a couple roster spots in the top 9 to try and pump and dump a few guys like Boucher or whoever the Hudlers/Versteegs of the world are in FA signings. Plus with a healthy lineup, at least to start the year, it'll be a little tight for top9 ice.
- Lindenis#1

Tryamkin was 6th among Canucks D in average ice time per game.

Its not like he isn't replaceable in the short term, anyway.

Okay thanks for the explanation. That's too bad. It ruined it for a lot. Wasn't clear on what you were talking about.

By the way I didn't slam you on it. Just questioned which was on me.

So why the once again retort. You didn't have to go there. As if that's a common occurrence. But you did. Is that a valid retort? If you believe that then paste a couple examples to clarify.
- Nuck4U

Not the first time you've prompted me with something out of left field while replying to one of my posts. Not a big deal, just a little weird. If you think I'm going to go back through past blogs looking for examples you're sadly mistaken

Maybe Tryamkin doesn't see it as a step backwards because he thinks the Canucks are worse than a KHL team.
- golfingsince

Considering Larsen is a superstar in the KHL that might not be accurate

I think Goldobin has to start on the big club more than the others do.

I don't think an established vet attaches his name to this club. But every year there are useful middle 6 forwards left without contracts. Toss a few extra bucks their way after the first couple weeks of July and then let them know up front "play well and we'll trade you a playoff team"

Doing the same with Boucher and if Rodin comes back him too. Just because the cupboards aren't bare right now doesn't mean they're full. Could really use a season of selling off assets for whatever comes back. Would even be down to using cap space to take say the final year, maybe 2, of some bad contract if the future coming back is good enough
- Lindenis#1

Okay. Let's see. I didn't see any of those UFA types you mentioned sign with non-playoff teams and get traded last season. More often, Teams building for playoff push convince signings and when they fail dump what they can.

Let's talk during July to see what's there. I bet when we look at the specifics that avenue will be a dud. We'll get a Vrbata type maybe and nobody will want him for playoffs. Same with Prust types.

I get the cap space arguement. Works with floor teams. So many RFA's to sign here doubt we got the luxury. Need to trade off some high priced vets first. Sedins leaving may open that in 2018.